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How the Right Went Wrong

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Guy Debord contends in "The Society of the Spectacle" that commodities, which were formerly embedded in a relationship of utility with persons, at a certain point in the development of capitalism, transformed into images.

What were once engaged actors on the stage and in the play of political order, became spectators, detached from their own lives.

Rick Roderick gives an example:

Whereas formerly one might have physically traveled to a family reunion to participate in trans-generational affirmation, now said person watches (a simulation) "Father of the Bride."

The "Right" sold its soul when it chained itself to defender, at all costs, of Faustian "free market capitalism."

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Some interesting insights here.

Makes you wonder why this happened, rather than what took place, and whether a party of ideologues knew what it was doing.

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This has the makings of a good thread. Maybe we should expand upon it and revitalize TGL, which, even in shadow form, remains the best message board on the Internet IMO.

Traveled around some other message boards recently just for a look-see and :puke:

It might be worth expanding upon the history of the "right" and "left," such as they are or were, in the history of American politics. Also technology: "The Society of the Spectacle" is only possible with advanced technology. So technology is a two-edged sword, cutting both good ways and bad ways.

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Are you claiming that this was deliberate or was an unforeseen consequence? If it was Faustian, is there a Gretchen to help us regain authenticity?

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Perhaps "Faustian" was a wee bit premature- identifying the etiological factors in the Rightist shift towards its, by and large, mainstream identification that interlocks it with 'free market capitalism' and its defense, is no easy task.

I suspect, of more recent date, it was the largely unintentional blowback from the horrors of demotism- many locate the beginning of this radical shift in political order to the French Revolution, but more pronounced in the Vanguardist Bolshevik Revolution, the logic of egalitarianism finding its ultimate bastardization in the 'killing fields' of the Khmer Rouge.

Perhaps a concrete exemplification of this blowback can be found in Ayn Rand's "Anthem," herself twelve years old, living in Russia at the time Lenin and co overthrew the tsarist system, written twenty years from the utopian dream to dead in the middle of Stalin's "Great Purge."

Collectivism is usually utilized, less as informative to political discourse, and more an epithet, but I see the emergence of "rugged individualism" the puerile, though in many respects "understandable" reaction against the politics of the mass age. Latching on to capitalism was seen as a lifeline, the Messiah to the "little platoons" spoken of by Burke, against the often brutal uniformity imposed by communist regimes.

But the ironies of history do tend to emerge, as what force in the world today is eradicating entire cultures, modes of being, rendering mankind one giant and utterly insatiable, monochrome desire machine than capitalism?

(To be continued...)

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We had a great discussion about all kinds of philosophical topics last night in chat with :dcd: and our new member, PP. Sadly, it all vanished with the blink of a "leave chat." :sadcheer:

Why this place has all its philosophical discussion in chat rather than in threads eludes me. :noidea:

Also, DCD mentioned he's having trouble doing basic things here like pasting text into threads.

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Philosophical discourse is found in conversation more so than in writing. Thus the majority of philosophy on TGL exists in chatrooms, and IRL at the bar.

:nod:

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I think one aspect of the whole “free markets at any cost” movement is that the true directors of the game, like leaders of think tanks, can keep the movement at arms length, thus giving them a certain ethical/moral buffer from the action. They aren't the ones actually carrying out the actions and the ones carrying out the actions are just happy to be a part of a “winning team.”

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:wave::chad:

You need to participate more often, specially in the writer's forum. :finger:

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